Nikon 4 x 16 42 Rifle Scope

[moose1am]

Has any one used the Nikon M-223 4-16x42M BDC 600 Rifle Scope?

I'm thinking of mounting this on a Future AR15. Right now I'm going to test it on a friends AR15 to see how well is handles and works.

I am hoping that the variable power will work for both night and day hunting. I'm thinking that I can use it at 4x for night hunting with a bright light mounted on top of the scope. I'm researching what type of light to buy right now. And during the day I can use it at the 16X setting for long range shots.

Nikon has a Web site and a program for a portable computer that you can buy that will help you figure out which of of the BDC 600's reticule's circles and dashes to use at various ranges, scope magnifications and various weather conditions. The weather conditions take into affect of the wind direction, wind velocity, Barometric Pressure, Air Temperature, Humidity, Altitude and a few other variables. The program and web site also takes into consideration the type of ammo you are using. You input the bullet's weight in grains, the type of bullet which is directly related to the bullets Ballistics Coefficient and a few other variables.

You can print out a report that shows each tic marks and small circle on the BDC reticule and what ranges that equates to under various conditions.

The distances that each circle represents changes with the ammo and the scopes magnification setting along with the weather conditions.

You can print out a book or take a lap top computer with you and input the data at the ranges as you are shooting.

I have some Remington Accutip-V in 223 caliber but that cartridge is not listing in the Nikon's web sites data base. They do however list the Rem 222 Accutip V Boat Tail bullet in 55 grains weight. But the Ballistics for these two type of bullets is slightly different. The boat tail has less drag downrange and thus retained more velocity and energy at 500 yards that the regular Accutip-V Remington 222 bullet.

I' going to have to go to the range and test this scope out to see how well it allows me to shoot my borrowed AR15. But it rained while I was getting ready to drive to the range yesterday. Rain rain go away!

Any one have any comments on what type of light is good to use on top of a 1" scope like this when night hunting with an AR15. PS this particular AR15 doesn't have any 1913 picatinny rails on the fore-grip of this AR15.

This AR15 is a High Standard 223 with the A1 type front iron sight and no rear sites. But it has a 8" long 1913 picatinny rail on the top of the rifle's upper over the chamber area. So I can mount a scope on the AR15 but no lights on the fore-grip. That means the light will have to mount on top of the scope right now.

[hoosierdaddy]

www.lightmalls.com/uniquefire-hs-802-cree-red-light-long-range-led-flashlight-1-18650

[moose1am]

Oct 30, 2013 18:02:08 GMT -5 hoosierdaddy said:

www.lightmalls.com/uniquefire-hs-802-cree-red-light-long-range-led-flashlight-1-18650

Thank you for the link and suggestion. I'll check that light out.

I took a real quick look at the web site page and then came back to write this thank you note. I'll go back there in a few seconds and check out the web site better. I'm hoping that it will have a way to attack to the top of my scope somehow.

[moose1am]

Hoosier daddy you are pretty smart. That light is the same thing as the Wicked 400 or damn near close to it and costs about 1/8 th as much as the Wicked 400 light.

If anyone is thinking about paying $160 for a Wicked 400 or even $130 for the XL 250 light then check out the Cree Flashlights on Google and see if they are not almost the very same thing.

These lights are all about the same and are all using a CREE type LED light inside them.

Why pay allpredatorcalls.com $160 plus shipping and tax if you can buy a similar light for $25?

The only thing that you get extra with the Wicked 400 Markmans set is a 2 bay charger, two charger adaptors, and a few adaptors to connect the light to a scope or an AR15's Picatinny rail and two batteries. The batteries can be had for $10. The light attachments for about $9 on Amazon. So you are paying these guys a whole lot more in case that necessary.

As soon as everyone figures this out the prices on these web sites should drop like a rock.

I wish I had figured this out before I bought my Wicked 400 light. I know it's pretty confusing trying to figure out which light is the one to buy.

All these lights are made in China and from what I'm seeing the mark up is like 400 % or higher.

Oct 30, 2013 18:02:08 GMT -5 hoosierdaddy said:

www.lightmalls.com/uniquefire-hs-802-cree-red-light-long-range-led-flashlight-1-18650

[moose1am]

OK I've had the Nikon Scope since November and have had it on two different AR15's so far. I've got a new AR15 now for myself since my neighbor asked me to return his gun back to him. This was after I purchased the Nikon Scope. But when I bought the scope I knew that I would end up buying my own AR15 to put the scope on. So no harm done.

The first time I put the Nikon Scope on my Ambush Firearms 5.56 AR15 I used a laser devise to sight in the scope cross hairs on the target 1" low with the laser beam on the bulls eye.

My first shot at the range at 100 yards was right in the center of the bulls eye. I was very pleased with the AR15 Ambush Firearms and the Nikon Scope Combination.

I fired several differnet types of 223 ammo and all were inside the Bulls eye at 100 yards. The groups opened up a bit at 200 yards. I used the 16 x mag on the scope for shooting at both 100 yard and 200 yards. I used the first circle from the cross hairs for the 200 yard shots and they were all within the first circle outside the bulls eye. I used the Sight N See type targets that show where the bullet hits with a chartreuse hole on a black target. I like these type of targets. I use the larger size Sight N C type.

So I'm pretty pleased with the performance of the Nikon and the Ambush Firearms 5.56 AR15 so far.

I''ll be talking about the Caldwell Deadshop Field Pod in the next thread. I just got one right before Christmas and am in the process of playing around with it to see how it works. I got the Magnum one which is heavier duty than the original one. This one weights in at 13 lbs vs 5 lbs for the original one.

I figure if the gun shots well off a Caldwell shooting bag at the rifle range I'd have to have some thing to stead the rifle while out in the field too.

I figure I'd rather pack a field pod into the field a short distance to have a more stable gun rest that to take a chance of shooting the gun without a good steady rest. I' tried hunting with a Primos Trigger Stick (long one) and didn't like the results. It's too hard to keep the rifle ready and work the remote or hand calls or binoculars while trying to keep the rifle barrel out of the mud.

The Caldwell Deadshot Field Pod Magnum is a very sturdy support for the AR15 rifle platform or any other type of rifle or even a cross bow.

I found that while standing up the Magnum will extend to 60" high. This makes it very easy to move around the tripod and shoot anything coming in at any angle 360 deg around my position.

Now if I'm sitting on my bucket seat I may have trouble moving to a new position without the coyote seeing me move in the day time. But at night with the spot light in the coyote's eyes I think I can get away with shifting my shooting postion while standing up.

The Magnum Deadshot Field Pod is very sturdy and the legs are very strong. You can use it from the standing postion, sitting postion or even in a prone laying down position. Which I think is pretty good. And it's very easy to get the rifle balanced on the pod and then to move the rifle around up and down or left and right about 40 degs each way without moving around the tripod's legs. But if you move around the legs then you can shoot anywhere in a 360 deg around the field Pod. So setting up to point the gun in the direction that the coyote will come from in the daytime is key to using the fieldpod. At night it's not so critical but you still need to keep the light on the predator as it comes in to your stand.

Now this is all theoretical right now as I've not actually hunted with the field pod. I may not think it's so great after hauling it along with all my other gear to a stand at night.

I'm going to practice hauling it around in the day time first before I use it at night.

It does have a nice strap that you can use to sling it over your shoulder and carry it. It folds up into a small package that's about 30 " long and about 9 to 10 " in diameter.

One thing that I didn't like is that the inserts on the ends of the aluminum tubing are plastic and tend to fall out. I had to glue two of these back into the front and rear forks that hold the rifle. when you try to insert them into place they are hard to get into the hold and then if the bottom goes through the hole the plastic tubing insert tends to fall out. I played around with the fieldpot in my living room and found the small plastic inserts on the carpet and was able to retrieve them back and glue them back in place with some super glue. I hope that the stay in place now but worry that they won't. Super Glue doesn't glue well to hard plastic material.

If I had done this setup out in the field those plastic inserts would have been lost and the integretity of the end of the aluminum tubing would have been lost. So beware of this defect in the system.